#castiel is jack’s father

[uh-ohspaghettio]

Happy Father’s Day to everyone’s favorite trench daddy

[strawberrryangel]

cas and jack sitting in the kitchen slow blinking at each other. dean walking in, grabbing a beer, and walking back out. sam is like what the fuck are they doing. dean is like yeah they do that. they’re bonding. leave them alone.

[drulalovescas]

This is where your father stabbed me, Jack. And that is when I knew, he's the only one for me...

[ananke-xiii]

Talking about mommy issues... I'm not a 100% fan of Jack as the destiel son BUT it's important to me that going there means acknowleding that "archetypically" speaking Dean is The Mother while Cas is The Father*. And this isn't just because, when Sam accuses Dean of acting like their father, he replies with a Freudian slip if I've ever heard one ("I'm not his mother"), it's also why Chuck's myth-retelling doesn't work (Abraham is totally Cas and he and Jack subverted that myth) 'cause first he doesn't understand Dean and second he's not an astute storyteller and doesn't realize his story was already subverting the myth he wanted to re-enact. Therefore he should've created a situation where Jack (The Son) was forced to kill Cas (The Father) if he wanted to provoke Dean, this was Jack's original sin according to Dean, come on Chuck, it's been 14 seasons, everybody already knew Dean was not gonna kill Jack. He's totally fine with caging and entrapping his putative sons but he draws a line at killing them (insert that meme from Community). (I mean, I know Chuck wants Dean to do his bidding but after 14 years he had to get a little more creative than that. Maybe he should've listened to his editor Metatron, just saying. "maybe less about detail and more about balance") ((hello Becky and Metatron parallel)).

It would have also meant that Jack's story would've gone back to its genesis + the long tail of dead parental figures (not only Kelly and Cas but Nick/Lucifer and Mary and whoever else I'm forgetting lol).

By the end of s14 there is a short-circuits of symbols so it all had to go tits up, hence the rising of the dead etc. etc.

*This doesn't mean they are the Good Mother and the Good Father as they're clearly not but these are the primordial energies that they both channel to Jack. Also, obvs patriarchy in SPN is very much alive and well as demonstrated by the fact that the Good Mother and the Good Father are only the Dead Mother and the Dead Father and unfortunately for Jack this is what he got when he was born. He's not even born and he already lives in an ideal world with ideal figures compared to whom he'll always fall short.

Also, Jack's got the power to wake up from the Empty his putative father because his Mother (Dean) is grieving his death and he wants to please him: Jack is a total mama's boy.

[monsterfuckermilligan]

i’m sure this has been said before but when adam and michael are talking in the bunker about the possibility of michael’s dad being a grade a asshole, there’s something so so so important to me about how adam points out michael’s hypocrisy.

ADAM: Point is…. Parents keep secrets. Does it hurt to ask the question?

MICHAEL: Yes! It would mean I doubt him. The good son; the favorite doubts his father.

ADAM: You still care about that? After he left you in the cage?

this matters because michael was JUST criticizing sam and dean for leaving adam and how he is in unable to trust them. he doubts them because of their actions.

MICHAEL: You’re asking me to trust you. You who doomed me, you who let Lucifer walk free while your own brother sat in Hell.

in turn, adam is pointing out that clearly michael has a line for his family members and it’s been crossed by michael’s own, so why is his dad any different than sam or dean? what makes michael different than adam? why does his dad get to betray and abandon him and still get michael’s trust and loyalty? why is michael expendable?

he’s really tapping into michael’s beliefs that were just established to us as the audience at the diner. (ie: family sometimes hurts you and just because they’re blood relatives or ‘family’ doesn’t mean they have your best interests at heart. sometimes there are things more important than family, sometimes walking away from your family is freedom) and he’s holding michael to the same standard he’s set for the winchesters.

side note: another thing i enjoy about this interaction is that adam is being gentle, although it 100% appears as if they’ve had this conversation before since he literally rolls his eyes, and not to mention that michael is an archangel. he could easily be mean or not even care about his feelings or michael could not even take his opinion into account and do what he wants. but despite everything, adam asks for michael to listen to him, and he does. and in turn adam appeals to him with logic and reasoning, because he’s overall a very rational and strategic being that’s simply been groomed from the get go in his dad’s weird cult. adam appeals to his emotions in a way that’s familiar. they share this experience. adam knows michael is protective of him and that it’s easy for michael to hate sam and dean for the same things his dad has done. but michael’s own lack of self worth that was drilled into him by his dad for aeons is being challenged, and it’s uncomfortable for him, but adam doesn’t back down and he helps get through to him. it’s really a great scene. this post wasn’t meant to be so long but yeah i have lots of thoughts about this short interaction!

[supernatural-case]

one thing I never ever see us talk about is that jack is his son, and losing him would absolutely ruin cas. it did wreck him.

I think, when cas comes back and learns what jack did, what he gave up, he would be torn apart by pride (in what jack sacrificed to save the world) and grief (in jack giving up his life, in jack being only four and losing out on his own life).

cas loves dean. it’s canon, it’s romantic, it is likely requited, but if the end of the world came down to jack or dean, cas would choose jack over and over. it’s shown in season 14’s final episode alone. neither love outshines the other, certainly — but that love also does not disappear.

they are different kinds of love, absolutely. this post is basically in response to a lot of destiel fics focusing on dean and cas (which is fair!), but I would love to see more fix-it fics with jack (and sam), and I would especially love to see more fics with jack where he maintains the role that he chose as god, but where cas grieves him while he and dean sort out their issues. (there’s a wonderful fic that exemplifies cas’s grief — highly recommend “fenario” by ftmsteverogers on ao3.)

I think the only thing the finale may have gotten right (entirely by accident, as it was a cover-up as to why they wrote misha out of it) was that cas might choose to stay a little bit longer with jack because he loved him, and he was his son. he might not go rushing to find dean because of his concern for his child in that child’s new, massive role.

give me more cas grieving the child his son could never be.

[manwiththemagic]

Patiently waiting for MY dad to go 'missing' on a hunting trip so I can take the bros away from school and we can hunt monsters and maybe kill God one day.

[loosethreadsofyoursoul]

happy father’s day to everyone’s favourite queer angel <3

[strawlessandbraless]

Happy Fathers Day to Dean and Cas!! 💙 💚

My boys being present when they only ever had absent fathers 🫠

[idjits-areus]

Just finished watching 14x7 | Unhuman Nature for the first time and let me tell you. Sam, Dean, and Cas have never been fathers harder than the first like 15 minutes. Them just in the hospital being so worried as Jack's body is killing him. Dean being all extra worried parental figure and snappy because he hates hospitals. Cas being a worried parental figure because he promised Kelly he would take care of Jack and now Jack's dying and he can't do anything. And Sam just trying to hold the other two together while he tries to hold himself up because Jack dying is hitting everyone hard. None of them could sit still for very long. And Cas just constantly watches Jack through the glass doors, only moving away to stretch his legs. And when they make a split second decision to get Jack out because they've been there far to long for anyone's liking, all three of them practically bolt with Jack back to the bunker. It's just....this show tends to give you good stuff then make you watch as they kill it in front of you. So when you get stuff like this or the Dean & Jack trip it's like 'how are they going to rip this from us this time?'

Second post about their trip here

[sastielsmanuscript-draft]

Sam was robbed prime Jack bonding time because the writers and fans favored Dean even tho Sam’s relationship with Jack would’ve made more sense

every time i see that damn season with Dean hanging out with Jack, i'm like, WHERE WAS THIS ENERGY BRO FUCK!!!!!!!

i understand what was happening with cas dying and dean being sad all about it but like cmon, to hate this child who also cared about cas too. AND essentially his surrogate father. FFFFFUCK DEAN MAN.

Sam made more sense since he could literally relate to Jack more. It oh so badly made more sense but like yknow. "dean is a father to all children" WHAT ABOUT SAM

[bloodcanbehot]

I was listening to Family Line by Conan Gray (cause it may or may not be part of the playlist for my supernatural fic) and that song is so Jack omg

[franklyfeline]

do yall fw supernatural furries

[emo-markie]

Fellas is it weird to be a fatherly figure to your very toxic ex and your brother's situationship kid? Asking for a friend btw

[ananke-xiii]

It's totally just my images-fuelled brain's fault but the pipeline from Chuck smiting Jack and Sam shooting Chuck to Sam shooting Cas and Cas smiting Not-Jack is kinda real.

(This is not a 100% original thought of mine but it was inspired by one of @shallowseeker 's insightful metas)

[kacievvbbbb]

While I love Jack and do think Alexander Calvert did a truly amazing job playing him and the fact he looks a little like Misha is adorabel.

but I do think that we were robbed from how astronomical the following seasons could have been if Jack was a girl.